Misinformation 63: With Friends Like These

This week, due to Zac's impending move and the roofing of his home, The Guys grab a cast from the Trainrek Radio catalogue.  It's rife with guest stars, Zac's humiliation at the hands of guest stars, and Weller looking cool...so basically...it's just like a regular episode...only with guest stars...plus much MUCH MORE!

And hey...odds are, you weren't among the two people who heard it when it aired, and MAYBE it will make you decide to check out Trainrek Radio...either way...listen...enjoy...pity...

THIS is MISINFORMATION!

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  • Amanda

    This episode was both cringe worthy and utterly delightful for me. What can I say, keep me up until 4AM and I’ll chat about just about anything :P

    Jun 25, 2009 at 2:11 am
  • Weller

    No offence Amanda, but thanks for calling in. I was honestly nervous about how the skype shows would turn out, but thankfully Dan, Ryan, Joe and yourself made for some excellent co-hosts. Can’t wait to do it again.

    Jun 26, 2009 at 3:39 am
  • Amanda

    I would tell you to go die a horribly slow painful death, but I think I would miss listening to you on misinfo far too much.

    I was really nervous about being on the show and almost didn’t do it, but I’m glad I did, I had a great time.

    I’d love to do another. I’m usually up at indecent hours of the night, so chances are I’ll be awake. And hey, maybe I can talk about things other than porn next time.

    Jun 26, 2009 at 10:50 pm
  • mex

    hey guys.

    Great Podcast, Ive just recently finished catching up to all 63 episodes (yes even to “lost” ones). Strangely addicting to listen to some dudes talk about mundane “stuff”. Might sound kinda cheesy but you got me through some hard times too.

    Take care and rock on

    -mex

    oh, and i heard about you on.. Cabin Fever

    Jun 27, 2009 at 7:30 pm
  • Tyler

    You know what I learned from being bullied as a kid? To hate myself. It hasn’t really gotten any better as I’ve grown into adulthood. But I guess I’m just a pussy.

    In general, I like this show quite a bit, but I was kinda offended by this topic.

    Jun 28, 2009 at 10:17 pm
  • misinformation

    Tyler…not really sure which part of the show you’re talking about. Could you be a little more specific?

    Mex…glad you’re enjoying the show, and very glad that our dumb little program helps keep your mind off life from time to time. I don’t even want to know where you found the “lost” episodes…they’re supposed to be buried in like 40 tons of concrete.

    Amanda…you are only allowed to talk about porn.

    Jun 29, 2009 at 12:29 am
  • Weller

    Amanda and anyone else with skype- there will be more to come.

    Mex- Making peoples day even just a little better is why I do Misinformation.

    Tyler- I’ve been on this planet thirty years now and I have never at any point in my life felt like I belong anywhere. I’ve learned that the more you live your life trying to impress or conform to the masses the more miserable you are. As long as what you do doesn’t harm anyone else than do what you what makes you happy. No matter what you do someone somewhere won’t like it so screw what anyone thinks of you good, bad, or indifferent. Assholes are assholes because they have no self-esteem and constantly crave attention for approval. They live for the reaction so don’t give it to them. It sucks sometimes, but it’s the best solution I’ve found. Self-deprecating humor will also drastically reduce ammo against you. I’m bald, my girlfriends leave me to marry someone else and compared to most of my friends I’m old. I joke about these things all the time and people stop bringing it up- I took all the fun out of it. Hope that helps.

    Jun 29, 2009 at 7:20 am
  • Tyler

    I appreciate the response, Weller. Looking back at it, though, I feel like I misspoke in my initial comment. I don’t actually have a problem with “bullies” at this point. At 26, I don’t generally let others dictate how I feel about myself. I do continue to have low self-esteem (a byproduct of previously mentioned childhood bullying) but I have matured to the point that I realize that, to be happy, I just need to work on what I need to work on in my life, and if I don’t do that then I’ve got nobody to blame but myself. Hopefully this makes things clearer (although I doubt it, as it feels very convoluted when I go back and re-read it).

    My problem with this particular show was that I just fundamentally disagree with the idea that being bullied is a necessary childhood learning experience, or that trying to help the bullied turns them into pussies or contributes to situations such as Columbine.

    Jul 4, 2009 at 10:44 pm
  • misinformation

    Hierarchy is part of life. Everyone can’t be equal. There is always someone faster, stronger, smarter, or funnier. I accepted a long time ago, that often times that person will not be me and this taught me to work harder. This taught me that I am not entitled to anything, that I must work towards success, that I must try to be better. Kids these days are not taught this. They are told that rather than trying harder, tests will be dumbed down to their level. They’re taught that, rather than running faster, gym class will not be a requirement and that the curriculum will no longer push them physically. They are taught that if they are bullied, they are not to stand up for themselves, they will be coddled and hugged until they feel better. This is a disservice to our children and weakens our society.

    Jul 5, 2009 at 9:01 pm
  • Tyler

    Then why punish thieves? People should learn to protect their property, instead of being coddled. Why prosecute assault? People should learn to defend themselves, instead of being pussies about it. These are the adult equivalents of childhood bullying.

    And I don’t know what universe you’re living in, but gym class is still a requirement in mine–at least until high school, where the rules change a bit. Tests aren’t dumbed down; standardization has forced teachers to teach to the test instead of actually trying to create learning experiences that enable kids to figure things out for themselves. At the risk of being disrespectful, I don’t believe you’re actually aware of what’s going on in schools when you say things like this. I’ve studied education law, special education, classroom management, and other aspects of schools. Beyond that, I’ve actually worked in and around the school system, including elementary, middle, and high schools, in the classroom and in after school programs. My experience is nothing like the world you describe.

    Jul 5, 2009 at 9:27 pm
  • misinformation

    Let someone try to take my property, my life or my liberty. I dare them. I became the extremely confident, forthright and assertive person that I am today because I eventually learned to stand up to bullies rather than run and hide in a closet while “grown ups” fought my battles for me. I’m a better person for it, and society would be better served to follow suit. I have also worked extensively in the education sector as well as many facets of public service as a whole. You’re living in a fantasy world if you don’t believe that our education system is dumbed down so that the lowest common denominator is the standard to which we hold our children. You insult our children and our future by accepting the education system as it is, and to be honest, it disgusts me.

    Jul 6, 2009 at 2:49 am
  • Weller

    Tyler- This right here is why I don’t like forums. This is the type of thing much better suited for a face to face conversation, but for now this will have to do. There are excellent schools all over the country- I respect teachers over all other occupations by a landslide. No one would be where they are without them. My mother is a recently retired teacher, my sister is a teacher, I have an uncle who is a retired professor, and five other relatives who teach as well. All of them put way more into their work than necessary and for virtually zero thanks and very little pay. My problem is not with teachers and I know by talking to him about this before Zac agrees- it is no child left behind. All schools are expected to improve, even ones that churn out ivy league bound students on a regular basis. When a school has to improve on already insanely high test scores this becomes difficult and if they don’t improve enough they lose funding. On the flip side schools in impoverished neighborhoods have always and will always have lower scores for a number of factors (mostly lack of parental involvement in their childrens education) Teachers in these schools are under enormous pressure from the principal and school board who’s job is on the line over a loss in funding. Teaching students on test topics at the expense of more important lessons is never a good thing. Some states give bonus pay to teachers who’s students improve in their scores. Sounds great, only some teachers in fear of losing their jobs cheated and altered their students answers. California had to get rid of the bonus because of teachers cheating and Chicago had to fire many teachers after it was discovered there was a sizable score fix in that city’s schools as well. These students need smaller classrooms with more individual teacher time than simply teaching them to pass a test. Something needs to be done and dumbing down classes to pass more students and holding teachers jobs on the line is not the way to do it. There are poor teachers out there, but the overwhelming majority cares for their students and want to make a difference in their lives.

    Going back to bullying I agree with Zac in that we as a society have gone way, way too far in being sensitive to others. Discrimination of any kind should never be tolerated, but the world is, was, and always will be full of people who think they are above everyone else. An eight year old telling another eight year old to “stop it” and then telling a teacher if they don’t works for them. It doesn’t work as an adult. There needs to be a point where every child is sat down by a trusted adult and told the brutal life truths. I don’t care who you are, or what you do, we all have our own shit to deal with. The way you choose to deal with it has its own consequence and those need to be explained. An eight year old being arrested and taken to jail for punching a classmate is completely fucked up. I don’t know a single friend who made it through elementary school without at least one shoving match on the playground. Kids are kids and a skinned knee or black eye teaches them more about life than having them sit with a guidance counselor and talk about feelings. You don’t forget pain- as a child I loved getting away with something when my only punishment was saying sorry. I almost never meant it, but if I could get what I wanted by saying two words I would do it. If it meant my dad would come home and spank me I immediately thought of something else to do. Spanking should not be discouraged- that is in my opinion the biggest mistake society has made in the last twenty years. I will also add some of my relative taught when teachers paddled their students. I also know older people who were paddled in school and both agree that it was a mistake to ban it. The 12 year old bully isn’t much of a man any more once he is crying in front of his entire class after a paddling. I am aware that many bullies also have a low self esteem and many are abused (there is a HUGE difference between spanking and beating a child) Other than counseling, there isn’t a good way to improve someones self-esteem. It sucks that there are so many people that do, but I avoid people like the plague who whine and bitch about how much their life sucks. You can’t control who raised you, or how you were raised, but it seems no one is willing to take personal accountability for anything anymore. They just blame everything on everyone else. Hate your job? Quit- take out a loan, go to a community college and get a new one. Relationship problems? All relationships have rocky moments but I can’t stand people who say how horrible their partner is, yet they continue dating them for years! I would love nothing more than to be in a relationship now, but I refuse to settle for anyone with drama (I fail at this 100% of the time by the way). That makes prospects few and far between. I could easily bitch about how much always being single sucks ass but I don’t because I choose to wait for the right person (or who is right until I really get to know them as is often the case). Friends or family issues? This is harder, but there comes a point where enough is enough and you have to cut ties. I had several friends in my youth who chose to take the dark path in high school. I still talked to them in school and chat when I run into them today, but I know where substance abuse will eventually take you and I will have no part in it. All of my best friends are loyal, caring, trusting and outstanding individuals. I refuse to associate with shady people- bad shit goes full circle. My grandma had a saying that really sums things up well. “Count your blessings”. Nothing is ever perfect. When all you do is look at the shitty parts of your life you really don’t notice the good stuff. I don’t know if you still work with children, but that sir is something to be very proud of. Life requires constant work and change- change is slow and sometimes painful, but whatever it is that is bothering you, I assure you it can eventually be overcome.

    Jul 9, 2009 at 10:11 pm
  • dtcb

    soundtrack to Resevoir Dogs so I like the intro.

    Beards…….ha! to you I say! I’ve got the full Pirate beard.

    what a filthy show! fantastic!

    Amanda and Joe were excellent!

    I was bullied as a kid. But, hell I definitely learned to defend myself. How fucking sad is it that kids are arrested now for fighting in school. sad, sad, sad.

    Zachkery, you have to stop saying “fuck you” as a defense. It’s the weaker man’s defense.

    Kansas……..Iowa……………..what’s the fookin’ difference.

    I’m old balls and I’d say that women after their mid 20’s no longer need to pretend to be drunk to get laid. They are either drunk and horny or horny and getting you drunk.

    Oh my god Weller!!! So damn funny! Going to a gay bar and fighting on who your date was going to be.

    Z………….singing……………especially “skid row”………..*sigh*

    What Amanda failed to mention was money also works. There is a line of women going around the sun who would eat glass to be Bill Gate’s date. Any women that says they are not attracted to money/power is a filthy liar. I have seen thousands of ugly guys in Asia rolling in insanely hot women because they have money.

    Great cast guys!

    Jul 29, 2009 at 12:44 am